tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post1332083716422451061..comments2008-03-25T07:45:12.433-04:00Lew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573Lew@LewBryson.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-34625309801755151392008-03-25T07:45:00.000-04:002008-03-25T07:45:00.000-04:002008-03-25T07:45:00.000-04:00<I>So, I can't understand how you have "never had this beer before".</I><BR/><BR/>Guess you want to read the post and the comments, in which I carefully, painfully explained the experiences I've had which led me to write this post.Lew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-59791190220845763622008-03-25T01:57:00.000-04:002008-03-25T01:57:00.000-04:002008-03-25T01:57:00.000-04:00I guess it depends on what market you were in. One would think in the Philadelphia market, with the number of Belgian beer bars and Belgian restaurants it has, getting fresh examples of Orval, would not be that hard a task. As mentioned, Monk's Cafe seems to be a good place to start on your quest for having Orval for the first time in Philadelphia. So, I can't understand how you have "never had this beer before".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-31854316521780013072008-03-10T16:45:00.000-04:002008-03-10T16:45:00.000-04:002008-03-10T16:45:00.000-04:00I've had several goes at "getting" Orval and am now aging a bottle to see what difference it makes.<BR/><BR/>One thing that definitely makes a difference is the temperature you serve it at - it tastes very rough and raw at fridge temperature but it much smoother once it gets up to the recommended 12-14 degrees.Boakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17657725007230709027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-23456771123286014892008-03-09T15:21:00.000-04:002008-03-09T15:21:00.000-04:002008-03-09T15:21:00.000-04:00I love "Anonymous" comments...<BR/><BR/>First, it's not a "review." Second, it's my experience, I didnt' make it up, so it's not "hogwash." <BR/>Finally, I don't remember anyone saying anything about bottled vs. draft: all the Orval I had in Belgium was bottled. <BR/><BR/>As for getting it fresh in the U.S., I'll be checking bottling dates from now on. As for you...maybe you want to look into a little anger management. It's beer, sonny, it's not religion, politics, or your mother we're talking about.Lew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-47923898921771518352008-03-09T15:10:00.000-04:002008-03-09T15:10:00.000-04:002008-03-09T15:10:00.000-04:00This review of Orval is complete and utter hogwash. You can get fresh Orval in the US. I have had bottles of Orval that have come from the brewery in a month or two of being bottled. You need to get your distributors to get you fresher bottles. And don't tell me Tom Peters can't get fresh bottles of Oval at Monk's. You don't have to go to Belgium to "really have" Orval. This is a beer that is meant to be bottled, enjoyed in the bottle, and enjoyed both young, and with age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-46539205904514106022008-03-07T12:52:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:52:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:52:00.000-05:00Loren,<BR/><BR/>If I could get it fresh, and age it myself, I'd really like to try that.Lew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-50742108721853613522008-03-07T12:15:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:15:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:15:00.000-05:00Changed or not there is no other beer like it on the planet. Just an astonishing, and like you said "simple", creation.<BR/><BR/>Just adore it. Especially with a couple years age on a bottle.Lorenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13913987288354432001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-54244474891850833452008-03-07T12:14:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:14:00.000-05:002008-03-07T12:14:00.000-05:00I haven't tried Orval in years, for the reasons you state.<BR/><BR/>Dunno if I'll ever get to Belgium to try one, but stranger things have happened.Rustmeisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16706110699686013722noreply@blogger.com