tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post3467323544064032127..comments2024-03-09T00:31:10.190-05:00Comments on Seen Through a Glass: David Shipula is bugging meLew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-24509007413132774362008-06-19T13:02:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:02:00.000-04:00I travel quite a bit on business, and PA is a GREA...I travel quite a bit on business, and PA is a GREAT beer state with terrible beer laws. Many times I visit PA and leave empty handed because I can't find a "deli" to purchase a few craft beers to pack in my suitcase. I think craft beer sales would go up if the case law was changed, because you would see more tourists purchasing singles and six packs to take home.<BR/><BR/>Here in Nashville, Kroger and Publix carry beers from Yazoo and Terrapin, and I have yet to see my regular mom and pop bottle shops go under. Craft beer on the shelves of supermarkets means more exposure. I agree with you Lew, PA needs to be "normal" when it comes to beer. People think I am joking when I explain PA beer laws to them. Using the children argument is nothing but lame anecdotal evidence, and the people that use it are fully aware of that. <BR/><BR/>Smitty<BR/>nashvillebeergeek.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-65506675028687554672008-06-16T18:39:00.000-04:002008-06-16T18:39:00.000-04:00He'd REALLY be bugging you if you were watching Ch...He'd REALLY be bugging you if you were watching Channel 22 news. He was on at 6pm (about a 10 minute segment) and will be on again at 7pm.<BR/><BR/>wyou.com, click on WYOU InteractiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-74509166947843418802008-06-07T14:45:00.000-04:002008-06-07T14:45:00.000-04:00Bruce, Reminds me of a place a buddy took me to in...Bruce, <BR/>Reminds me of a place a buddy took me to in Texas (Shiner, Texas, actually): beer, gas, guns, ammo, hunting knives, porno, live bait and fishing gear, and the guy did dentistry in the back. And Shipula's worried about gasoline and the "family shopping experience"? Weenie.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-40426978244969951092008-06-07T10:42:00.000-04:002008-06-07T10:42:00.000-04:00Wow, this guy would soil his pants if he saw some ...Wow, this guy would soil his pants if he saw some of the stores up here in New Hampshire.<BR/><BR/>Beer, wine, guns, ammunition, machetes, and chainsaws all in one convenient stop.<BR/><BR/>It's a wonder the state hasn't depopulated itself.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00984705666306668934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-34978197781675614742008-06-05T23:39:00.000-04:002008-06-05T23:39:00.000-04:00Three Anonymousers...Okay. David Shipula does alwa...Three Anonymousers...<BR/><BR/>Okay. David Shipula does always identify himself as the president of the association, and even says that it's about his business. He's up front about that; it's the arguments he uses that irk me. <BR/><BR/>There are crappy booze stores everywhere, unfortunately, but yeah, a monopoly/oligopoly situation makes things worse.<BR/><BR/>And...whatever you're saying, wouldn't it be great if the state would actually enforce laws like these, and the tapline cleaning law, and price-fixing laws, and like that, instead of all the silly crap they're running around enforcing now? Be a better market, wouldn't it? Supermarket sales seem to be working GREAT for craft brewers in the West; why would it be different here?Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-91800770811024845842008-06-05T20:51:00.000-04:002008-06-05T20:51:00.000-04:00When this guy writes the op-ed or letter to the ed...When this guy writes the op-ed or letter to the editor does the paper say who he represents? It bothers me when articles or letters read like they were written by disinterested citizens. I hope they made it clear he was a paid lobbyist or merchant avoiding competition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-23006313275250940712008-06-05T19:47:00.000-04:002008-06-05T19:47:00.000-04:00as a new yorker who has visited pa often let me te...as a new yorker who has visited pa often let me tell you this story . there is a beer beverage about 2 miles from me that has been open since i was a kid i havent shopped there in years but i hear its still the same . the place is dirty and ready to fall apart they sell maybe 9 different beers . there cooler is a joke beers are a little colder then room temperture in there . within a mile of him are at least 4 supermarkets 6 gas stations and another beverage place yet this guy is still in business david shipula you are a joke . your one of those guys if your business made a net million dollar profit one year but a penny less the next year you would lay off half your staff and raise your prices citing hard economic timesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-15464976589749539262008-06-05T18:43:00.000-04:002008-06-05T18:43:00.000-04:00There you go again talking about the supermarket b...There you go again talking about the supermarket business and how they conduct there business you have not a clue about slotting allowances for beer companies,great its against the law but take it from someone who called on some of the largest supermarket chains in the state there are so many ways to skirt this issue have you heard the term co-operative merchandising agreements it basically says the more beer you sell in a given six or one year period and hit your goals you will be rewarded,free goods,trips.merchandise etc but you are working and writing for the company that will benefit most if beer were allowed in supermarkets,just today miller and coors will be combining there marketing and sales-forces to fight budweiser.do you think there will even be a small crumb left for any local craft beer in pennsylvania think not or if it is will be so priced out of the market they will starve to deaf..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-86064917587049240152008-06-05T15:00:00.000-04:002008-06-05T15:00:00.000-04:00Yup, that made me angry. I encountered that kind o...Yup, that made me angry. I encountered that kind of thinking 15 years ago at work; I just didn't believe it. One beer? Made me dangerous? Ridiculous.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-34827626600863105282008-06-05T14:30:00.000-04:002008-06-05T14:30:00.000-04:00Here's a link that might make you angry:http://www...Here's a link that might make you angry:<BR/><BR/>http://www.theindustryradar.com/index.cfm?account=article&page=managers_drinking<BR/><BR/>The HR perspective is indicative of our societal philosophy on alcohol. <BR/><BR/>My comment is about the 25th down, from anon that starts, "We have a severe drinking problem in this country..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-22145101124012784742008-06-05T09:45:00.000-04:002008-06-05T09:45:00.000-04:00Ah, Charlie. Thank you for that front-line report ...Ah, Charlie. <I>Thank you</I> for that front-line report from where these terrible prophecies are coming true. I feel terrible, and most of all for the poor people in all those other states <I>where this kind of malicious chaos has reigned for <B>years</I></B>. <BR/><BR/>Hee hee!Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-88938997535718640132008-06-05T09:40:00.000-04:002008-06-05T09:40:00.000-04:00Well here in Centre county things aren't so well. ...Well here in Centre county things aren't so well. With Wegmans and Sheetz corrupting our decent standards of morality, we now have wimmen buying beer recklessly at the same place they buy food and their kids are exposed to a near pornographic isle of sixpacks. We had to put a border crossing from Blair county to keep drivers who may have purchased gas and beer at the same time off our streets. We at Otto's have more workman's comp issues from the excess beer deliveries to Wegman's 300 yards away. Not to mention the BMW we had to buy Danny Wegman for a shelf fee. Fire and brimstone stuff happening here. Really.<BR/><BR/>Charlie Schnable <BR/>Otto's Pub and BreweryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-8002678293120777832008-06-04T22:36:00.000-04:002008-06-04T22:36:00.000-04:00Funny thing, Matt: according to a guy I met who wo...Funny thing, Matt: according to a guy I met who worked for the lawyer who wrote it, the 'case law' was part of a model code written by the beer wholesalers and handed to the PA legislature after Repeal. They proceeded to enact most of it as part of the PA Liquor Code (that agrees with what I read in a report written some 25 years ago on the PLCB). At the time, it seemed like a great idea to be able to only sell cases, without the annoyance of breaking them down for individual sale: less work, easier sales. So now they're hoist on their own petard. <BR/><BR/>As for the Senate six-pack bill? Who knows? The status seems to change almost weekly, and it's <I>months</I> past when it was supposed to pass. I gave up holding my breath in February.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-24639734674140731972008-06-04T22:30:00.000-04:002008-06-04T22:30:00.000-04:00Excellent post. Sums up my feelings exactly. Bei...Excellent post. Sums up my feelings exactly. Being new to PA, I don't understand the fear that many lifelong residents have of supermarket alcohol sales. But I could live without that particular convenience if the distros were allowed to sell any quantity of beer, possibly wine. I can't see that hurting the businesses at all, and the children will be fine as well.<BR/><BR/>It's the lack of obvious reason that kills me- why do we have to buy 24 beers to avoid having prices unreasonably marked up, and why does no-one I've talked to know the answer to that question?<BR/><BR/>Another question- whatever happened to the Senate bill about the case law?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04944209233233577238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-24743082500939965162008-06-04T22:18:00.000-04:002008-06-04T22:18:00.000-04:00Well, I am angry. Obfuscation makes me that way. T...Well, I <I>am</I> angry. Obfuscation makes me that way. <BR/><BR/>The Gilded Otter was great, as good or better than I remembered it. Darren's beers were just the thing after five hours of driving. Wish we'd had time for lunch.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-33267242422208249152008-06-04T22:07:00.000-04:002008-06-04T22:07:00.000-04:00It's rough to see you so angry Lew. I don't like....It's rough to see you so angry Lew. I don't like. I hope that at the end of the day, when legislation does finally change, the people making the decisions will look with open minds on how ridiculous some of the arguements are.<BR/><BR/>On a brighter note, Jack touched on the Gilded Otter. My parents went to New Paltz and took me on trips a while back. I haven't been there in forever and a day. How's the Brew Pub?@SKeithJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14982315020975781017noreply@blogger.com