tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post8058796322844582263..comments2024-03-29T01:30:47.656-04:00Comments on Seen Through a Glass: Upstate Beer & Game Dinner -- here are your beers!Lew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-41921169549088509722008-03-04T05:09:00.000-05:002008-03-04T05:09:00.000-05:00"Upstate"... Never thought that would be such a ho..."Upstate"... Never thought that would be such a hornet's nest! Carolyn's neatly put her finger on the issue: I use NorthCentral, Central, NEPA, and I always say "Western PA" for the lands west of about Somerset...but when you've got to talk about an area that encompasses several of those regions -- which this dinner originally did, until we decided to focus on the really tiny, really new (except for Bullfrog) breweries that we did -- "upstate" becomes a handy thing to reach for. I used it in <I>Pennsylvania Breweries</I> to for the chapter that had to cover places as far apart as Barley Creek and Erie. Truly, no offense meant. <BR/><BR/>Deuane, the offer's appreciated, but the chance to visit the four breweries -- two of them new to me -- is too much to pass up! I'm picking up the beers this week.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-5227556950836754092008-03-02T12:15:00.000-05:002008-03-02T12:15:00.000-05:00Here's my humble opinion (for whatever it is worth...Here's my humble opinion (for whatever it is worth...)<BR/><BR/>As a castaway of Lycoming and Union counties, I'm always an advocate for the description of "Central Pennsylvania" when talking about places like Otto's, Elk Creek, Bavarian Barbarian, Bullfrog and Selin's Grove.<BR/><BR/>But when you include a place as far east as One Guy in Berwick, it does get difficult to describe.<BR/><BR/>Since three out of the four represented breweries are north of I-80 and most people *think* Penns Valley a far northern reach, "upstate" is an appropriate descriptor. (That being said, if the breweries were all from Pittsburgh and Philadelphia (below I-76), I probably wouldn't advocate for using the term "downstate".)<BR/><BR/>Despite what you want to call it geographically, in culinary terms this sounds like an AMAZING pairing. We can only participate in one thing during Philly Beer Week, and this is the one we picked. I'm generally not a meat eater, but I'm streching my dietary preferences to go back to the foods of my ancestors for one night. Can't wait!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-65839292996226674982008-03-01T10:23:00.000-05:002008-03-01T10:23:00.000-05:00No offense taken, Lew. It's just that, as someone...No offense taken, Lew. It's just that, as someone who has lived "upstate" for more than thirty years, I've never before heard that term. I've actually asked around, and no one up here has ever heard or used it, either. (You'll note that dh refers to where he lives as "Northcentral PA," which is how I would refer to the area. You "southeasterners" just have a different take on the subject! Now igonre my tangent and enjoy your trip, dammit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-28868788779186531412008-02-29T02:51:00.000-05:002008-02-29T02:51:00.000-05:00Carolyn and I are looking forward to this dinner. ...Carolyn and I are looking forward to this dinner. I emailed Scoats and reserved 2 tickets. <BR/><BR/>Say, are you making a road trip to get the beers mentioned or are the brewers coming to Philly,"shudder"?<BR/><BR/>If you are making the run do you need any help? I am coming...have easy access to 3 of the 4..only One Guy is a bit out of my way. Let me know.<BR/><BR/>Also, I have to agree with Sam....this upstate thing...WTF? I live more than 100 miles (give or take ) from Philly, am I too "upstate"? Just curious since I am not in one of the five counties! Does that mean only 5 counties matter and the other 62 are mere hind-tit suckers?Deuanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08755013226811803941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-90868299936841997752008-02-29T00:08:00.000-05:002008-02-29T00:08:00.000-05:00"Upstate" is just like in NY: anything more than 1..."Upstate" is just like in NY: anything more than 100 miles <I>away</I> from the major city in the southeast corner, so yeah, Erie's definitely upstate. Everyone down here in the 5-county area knows exactly what I mean when I say it. It's not demeaning, Sam: I loves upstate, I do. It's just shorthand.<BR/><BR/>Otto's was on the list, and you're right about the beer, top-notch, but I wanted to get the newest breweries in, and I had to make the run shorter, if possible.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-88084031171540167472008-02-28T21:04:00.000-05:002008-02-28T21:04:00.000-05:00OK, what's with this "upstate" thing? Upstate New...OK, what's with this "upstate" thing? Upstate New York, sure, but I've lived in Pennsylvania all my life and have never used or heard "upstate" in this regard till Lew. Wouldn't that make Erie beer "upstate." too? I'm familiar with "northeast," northcentral," and "northwest" PA, but this "upstate' thing has me confused.<BR/><BR/>By the way (and my allegiance is showing here), let's not forget Otto's in all this discourse. They're as good an upstate brewery as any we've got!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-49581807892229713262008-02-26T08:59:00.000-05:002008-02-26T08:59:00.000-05:00dh stated..."The Great Beer Wasteland of the World...dh stated..."The Great Beer Wasteland of the World".<BR/><BR/>Say what! I think the folks at Bullfrog and Selin's Grove Brewing would like to dispute that! They both have been making great carft beers for the past 10+ years! <BR/><BR/>And now...One Guy, Bavarian Barbarian, Abbey Wright, Elk Creek...MAN! The upstate is going wild! All you guys need now is a brewpub in the Scranton/Wilkes Barre area AND KEEP IT OPEN!Deuanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08755013226811803941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-81597734303356904812008-02-24T09:32:00.000-05:002008-02-24T09:32:00.000-05:00Hey, Yuengling is an upstate brewery, right? No, n...Hey, Yuengling is an upstate brewery, right? <BR/><BR/>No, no Yuengling this time. But did you see that there will be <I>cask</I> Lord Chesterfield at Don Russell's event on the 7th? Amazing. Don told me they <I>may</I> have cask Porter, too. Even Yuengling is finally getting more fully on board the craft bus.<BR/><BR/>I'm excited about this dinner, and not just because it gives me a good excuse to go visit two new breweries, an old favorite (Bullfrog) and a new one (One Guy). This is Philly Beer Week as we imagined it: the beer world, large or small, coming to Philadelphia, because this <I>is</I> a stage they want to be on.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-72434602895871359182008-02-24T07:26:00.000-05:002008-02-24T07:26:00.000-05:00Great pairing of beers, and food. I really look fo...Great pairing of beers, and food. I really look forward to it. Have a friend flying in from the Left Coast just for this dinner. Now as long as you don't pull that slipping Yuengling Lager trick which you did years ago at Isaac Newton's we will all be happy.Syllogismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16759747143640872652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-15206031348138730982008-02-23T06:48:00.000-05:002008-02-23T06:48:00.000-05:00Good to see all the beers from Northcentral PA - "...Good to see all the beers from Northcentral PA - "The Great Beer Wasteland of the World". Maybe we'll lose that distinction yet!<BR/><BR/>Thirsty in MuncyChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02598685856479224067noreply@blogger.com