tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post8156648551577755798..comments2024-03-09T00:31:10.190-05:00Comments on Seen Through a Glass: Major Yuengling expansion on the tableLew Brysonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-11606615727761276582010-10-25T15:26:03.653-04:002010-10-25T15:26:03.653-04:00A few years ago, I found a shard of glass wedged i...A few years ago, I found a shard of glass wedged into the pull tab of a can of Yuengling Light I had bought.<br /><br />Not being able to find contact info online, I sent a letter, the old fashioned way to Yuengling, including the lot number from the case and the shard of glass. I told them I'm not litigous, just a concerned beer drinker and thought they should know that something went awry with this case of beer.<br /><br />I lived for 10 years in Scandinavia and Yuengling is the only mass produced US beer I can drink.<br /><br />Much to my surprise - a few weeks later, I got a package in the mail with all sorts of Yuengling goodies, and a HANDWRITTEN letter from Dick Yuengling apologizing about the shard of glass....<br /><br />Could you imagine that attention to customer service from a faceless mega brewery?<br /><br />Needless to say, my fridge is always stocked with Yeungling!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-70117494422280942962010-10-22T17:25:47.352-04:002010-10-22T17:25:47.352-04:00Have 1st hand knowledge of Hardy Bottling and the ...Have 1st hand knowledge of Hardy Bottling and the plant Yuengling is planning to purchase.<br /><br />First the plant would be a good strategic purchase. It is a large facility that had major upgrades by Coors prior to Molson shuttering it. It sits next a major railroad intermodal site and has rail lines linking to this intermodal yard. This give them very cost effective delivery mechanism to the the Midwest. <br /><br />Hardy Bottling is a boutique bottler that focuses mainly on soft drinks. They do not brew beer. The company has been in trouble for a while. They lost a number of significant customers due to quality and performance issues. For this reason they are bleeding cash.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-31859571510408829442010-10-21T11:52:18.423-04:002010-10-21T11:52:18.423-04:00yeah, caveats, but shouldn't matter to anyone ...yeah, caveats, but shouldn't matter to anyone but bored, uptight geeks, as the beer is good and the price is right and that's the important bottom line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-54966162813716217692010-10-21T10:44:09.397-04:002010-10-21T10:44:09.397-04:00Couple caveats: the Porter and Lord Chesterfield A...Couple caveats: the Porter and Lord Chesterfield Ale are lager-brewed. None of the beers are all-malt...which brings up one of my favorite Yuengling stories. I was talking to former brewmaster Ray Norbert, who held that position for almost 30 years, back in 1994. After a great interview, I got a little feisty, and asked him if he'd ever considered doing an all-malt beer. He looked at me with gentle wonder, and asked: "I'm running two shifts, 6 days a week; we just put in a major expansion that doubled my capacity, and the sales force is still selling more beer than I can make. Tell me: what's broken that I need to fix?" <br />And that's how it's been ever since. If the growth ever slows down significantly, it might be time to reconsider!Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-79437436722126672922010-10-21T10:13:05.871-04:002010-10-21T10:13:05.871-04:00Hey Steven, Unlike Coors and Strohs, Yuengling ma...Hey Steven, Unlike Coors and Strohs, Yuengling makes a very good and popular porter and ale and have done so for decades and back when there were very few available.<br /><br />The lager is not coors, or strohs, or anything they made. It's actually got malt and is a great choice for certain bars that have little on tap, or who think stella artois or blue moon is craft beer. People like it. Might not be your thing but there's plenty of other choices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-2440911907120065662010-10-21T09:42:42.088-04:002010-10-21T09:42:42.088-04:00"Are you serious about Molson?"
LOL! W...<i>"Are you serious about Molson?"</i><br /><br />LOL! What do <i>you</i> think?<br /><br />(that was the whole point, and there <i>was</i> an emoticon {sorry Lance})Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10585545034172431563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-60873990799894642692010-10-21T08:29:56.596-04:002010-10-21T08:29:56.596-04:00Are you serious about Molson? The oxygen's out...Are you serious about Molson? The oxygen's out of their room. <br /><br />Far as I know, Schell is second, about 20 years younger than Yuengling, and also still family-owned. They do a more interesting range, I'd agree. But again...Yueng's not targeting you! Be interesting to see how the Midwest works out for them. REALLY curious to see if they have the balls to go into Missouri!Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-12982035696194410792010-10-21T08:24:54.414-04:002010-10-21T08:24:54.414-04:00"That's an angle that's been working ...<i>"That's an angle that's been working very well for Yueng."</i><br /><br />Doin' a great job for Molson as well! ;-)<br /><br />IIRC, Schell is close behind Yueng in chronology, and I know what I'd reach for first -- but yeah, I'm not one of the mainstream drinkers you mention.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10585545034172431563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-24480313980325917702010-10-20T16:59:24.477-04:002010-10-20T16:59:24.477-04:00Well, sure, Steve, but...they're not America&#...Well, sure, Steve, but...they're not America's Oldest, are they? That's an angle that's been working very well for Yueng. Iron City, for instance, didn't even slow them down. We'll see what happens.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-77557102801918474212010-10-20T16:55:12.881-04:002010-10-20T16:55:12.881-04:00Doesn't poison them, heh -- I understand the t...Doesn't poison them, heh -- I understand the theory, Lew, But here in the midwest we've already got those kinds of beers (regionals, if you will) in the likes of Leinenkugel, Point, and even Schell. And they're all attempting their own forays into "craft" brewing, but their mainstays are pretty much in line with Yuengling.<br /><br />Understanding that this whole discussion is invalid if Y isn't even headed for this area.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10585545034172431563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-71043294686765786492010-10-18T13:26:48.565-04:002010-10-18T13:26:48.565-04:00Steve,
Yuengling is not aimed at the craft drinker...Steve,<br />Yuengling is <i>not</i> aimed at the craft drinker. Absolutely. However, it is aimed at the mainstream drinker, and it's been our experience in PA that once drinkers break out of the 'regular' choices, try a Yuengling and find it doesn't poison them, many -- not 'most,' or 'all,' but 'many' -- of them are more willing to try something else...which has been to the benefit of craft brewers.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-29243147999488133972010-10-18T11:01:47.438-04:002010-10-18T11:01:47.438-04:00Okay, not to rain on anyone's parade, but I...Okay, not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'll be the little kid who points out the emperor's new clothes...<br /><br />Being in Illinois, where Ying isn't available, I've taken opportunities to try "the Lager" when possible. Can't say I'm terribly impressed. Is this another one of those brass rings like Coors and Stroh's used to be in the '70s?<br /><br />With all the good beers available on the shelves these days, Yuengling will only get a passing glance from me.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10585545034172431563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-17535717839659291722010-10-16T19:57:55.480-04:002010-10-16T19:57:55.480-04:00Great beer and all American. Oldest operating brew...Great beer and all American. Oldest operating brewery in USA. Beats Belgium Bud.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14799816694450667109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-49810948278922849442010-10-14T22:37:19.770-04:002010-10-14T22:37:19.770-04:00Go Dick! Go Yuengling! Go Pennsylvania! Just kee...Go Dick! Go Yuengling! Go Pennsylvania! Just keep an eye out for the wolves lurking in the forest, and Lord knows, they're out there...just ask Rolling Rock.sam knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-8800111313251542262010-10-14T18:01:50.057-04:002010-10-14T18:01:50.057-04:00Do they have a grits cooker?Do they have a grits cooker?Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14256078606152011585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-66381911503803584152010-10-14T16:08:00.363-04:002010-10-14T16:08:00.363-04:00This is exciting. One of the bad things about movi...This is exciting. One of the bad things about moving from Florida to Michigan was the loss of Yuengling.Elanornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-839670700050940692010-10-14T14:52:08.356-04:002010-10-14T14:52:08.356-04:00It's a big plant, sure, but they've been l...It's a big plant, sure, but they've been looking to sell: the facility's been up for sale for a while, and there was major damage from the 2008 tornadoes. <br /><br />Yuengling's not a corporation, either; it's a private company, owned by Dick Yuengling. I guarantee you, without fear of contradiction, that he's not "nervous" about the capabilities of this plant. He's running the largest American-owned brewery, his sales have grown over 400% since 1990. Yuengling bought the Stroh brewery in Tampa because it was available, they needed capacity, and the price was right. Prices are hammered flat right now, and Yuengling has cash; right time to buy. <br /><br />Everything I see about Hardy in the news indicates they're not doing well. City Brewing, which also looked at that facility when Coors sold, and has the old Rolling Rock facility in Latrobe, PA, is scraping by (though getting Iron City has helped). The plant was bought for $9 million in 2006; I suspect Yuengling's going to get it for less, and they won't be interested in selling water, or any of the other products Hardy may be doing: they're going to make beer, their beer.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-8242556739338236172010-10-14T14:39:36.880-04:002010-10-14T14:39:36.880-04:00First, Congrats to Hardy and to Yuengling.
I find...First, Congrats to Hardy and to Yuengling.<br /><br />I find it very interesting that your number one assumption is that Hardy Bottling is "not doing well". If you look further into the company you will see that most likely Yuengling saw Hardy as a strategic purchase,and Yuengling's letter of intent will most likely come with Carolyn Hardy (a minority woman) as top management. (check her track record)<br /><br />Large corporations buy smaller corporations not as a favor to anyone, but because these large corporations are nervous about the capabilities. Hardy Bottling's facilities, and all current and former Coors facilities, are much larger than any brewery that Yuengling currently owns.<br /><br />What most people don't realize when starting a business is that, at the the end of the day you must know when to get out.<br /><br /><br />Congratulations Hardy Bottling!<br /><br />-G. HaslamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-61928281193463546992010-10-14T13:26:17.057-04:002010-10-14T13:26:17.057-04:00Agreed. Initial thoughts were it might mean the sh...Agreed. Initial thoughts were it might mean the shuttering of tampa but more likely that memphis will be the launching spot for the midwest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-55396224454234937262010-10-14T13:05:55.956-04:002010-10-14T13:05:55.956-04:00Well, yeah: there's "national" and t...Well, yeah: there's "national" and then there's distributed in every single market in the 50 states. Slow and methodical, but it's clear that they're planning a move west of the Appalachians.Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-59943804589963589842010-10-14T12:58:48.083-04:002010-10-14T12:58:48.083-04:00Tread lightly, Mr. Yuengling. That sort of endeav...Tread lightly, Mr. Yuengling. That sort of endeavor did not work well for all of us...Theodore Hamm and G. Heilmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-21004739407317665262010-10-14T12:56:20.203-04:002010-10-14T12:56:20.203-04:00how are you so sure by the press release yuengling...how are you so sure by the press release yuengling is going national? This could mean a half dozen more states.<br /><br />HOpe it works out, and hope I start seeing more chesty, porter and half and half.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7315262155858800734.post-43040525589992727532010-10-14T12:49:49.219-04:002010-10-14T12:49:49.219-04:00Great news!
Tennessee, in general, isn't unio...Great news!<br /><br />Tennessee, in general, isn't union-friendly, however if any city in the state would be, it is Memphis.<br /><br />From Zima to Yuengling - that's what I call progress!Rustmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16706110699686013722noreply@blogger.com